tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post3134690809499963561..comments2024-03-22T12:20:48.920+00:00Comments on open...: Dell Joins Netbook Race to BottomGlyn Moodyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-71941236344289127762009-02-13T14:00:00.000+00:002009-02-13T14:00:00.000+00:00@zaine: Moore's law can be interpreted in two ways...@zaine: Moore's law can be interpreted in two ways: more power for the same price, or the same power for lower price. <BR/><BR/>I'm saying that there's a configuration that's good enough for GNU/Linux (which is highly lean), that we can use as a netbook base, and that the cost of that will tend to zero (well, say, under £70/$100).Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-62157143884239074352009-02-13T13:54:00.000+00:002009-02-13T13:54:00.000+00:00Glyn, you make some very good points on netbooks v...Glyn, you make some very good points on netbooks vs. notebooks. But Moore's Law surely applies to netbooks. As they become more powerful, users will expect more of everything (except size). <BR/><BR/>In my mind, there's a cutpoint where a netbook becomes less attractive: on the high end, you're pushed to spend extra and simply buy a notebook; on the low end, the machine doesn't offer enough to make it worth even £200. Take the average notebook price right now, say $600/£860, and split that price for a good netbook. There's a sweet spot where a netbook is a great value, and the extremes make you say, "meh."<BR/><BR/>Seems right now that HP, MSI, et al., are selling netbooks with Linux on them at almost the same price as XP and pocketing the profit. Is that the case, or is Microsoft handing out XP licenses for free on netbooks?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-33101488180426895522009-02-11T21:06:00.000+00:002009-02-11T21:06:00.000+00:00If 512MB means upgradeable and 4GB means upgradeab...If 512MB means upgradeable and 4GB means upgradeable I would love to buy it. Otherwise it is a NO-GO<BR/><BR/>Regards<BR/>VasileiosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-36413031247327342052009-02-11T15:19:00.000+00:002009-02-11T15:19:00.000+00:00Dell's certainly not perfect, but we need them to ...Dell's certainly not perfect, but we need them to help spread the word among general users.Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-73123486197934946972009-02-11T15:04:00.000+00:002009-02-11T15:04:00.000+00:00Still, I noticed some harsh words from Dan Lynch f...Still, I noticed <A HREF="http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/02/whats-up-dell/" REL="nofollow">some harsh words from Dan Lynch</A> from Linux Outlaws on the topic of Dell and Ubuntu.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-55578578180395105112009-02-11T13:04:00.000+00:002009-02-11T13:04:00.000+00:00Exactly: it becomes an impulse buy. and perfect f...Exactly: it becomes an impulse buy. and perfect for children, too.Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-34634489802734120002009-02-11T13:01:00.000+00:002009-02-11T13:01:00.000+00:00@hasAnEEEpcI agree with you that the specs are ext...@hasAnEEEpc<BR/><BR/>I agree with you that the specs are extremely low-end, most of us have no need for such a machine. <BR/><BR/>But the machine might play an important role as a price breaker - it will sooner or later slip below 100 Euro (150 USD) - by this summer, me thinks.<BR/><BR/>You might find such machines then for sale in your local supermarket or on the rummage table of your department store, at this price, like you find cheap mobile phones in such places.<BR/><BR/>For this price, you buy one for your son, one for your daughter, one for mom, and maybe one for grandpa, eliminating any margins for MS and Windows. <BR/><BR/>They then need to give away Windows essentially for free to prevent a landslide, as they had to cut the Windows prices in order to stop it when the EEE arrived. <BR/><BR/>I know it sounds a little bit exaggerated, but this machine IMHO has the potential to seriously harm MS in a not too distant future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-87058415734691634652009-02-11T08:42:00.000+00:002009-02-11T08:42:00.000+00:00I think it's horse for courses. I've used 7" syst...I think it's horse for courses. I've used 7" systems - they're not suitable for writing novels on, but for browsing, they're fine.Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-45076298393888783132009-02-11T06:24:00.000+00:002009-02-11T06:24:00.000+00:00amd-linux, I would not touch that 149euro netbook ...amd-linux, <BR/><BR/>I would not touch that 149euro netbook for 4 reasons:<BR/><BR/>1: 7" screen, means max 800x480 - all current netbooks have 8.9" screens for 1024x768 - makes a huge difference<BR/>2: Via C7 CPU really lacks in power (read about the Dell 2133 to get an idea about this)<BR/>3: Only 2Gb SDD: hard to install anything on that...<BR/>4: it's fugly! (well, that's my opinion anyhoo...)<BR/>The price is ridiculous, but honestly, you would not be getting your money's worth...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-71029604033327659322009-02-10T21:17:00.000+00:002009-02-10T21:17:00.000+00:00Interesting. Modem but no wifi, it seems; still, ...Interesting. Modem but no wifi, it seems; still, pretty amazing.Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-86998789401745112042009-02-10T21:12:00.000+00:002009-02-10T21:12:00.000+00:00Glyn,check out this offer here in Germany:http://w...Glyn,<BR/><BR/>check out this offer here in Germany:<BR/><BR/>http://www.one.de/shop/product_info.php?cPath=213_214&products_id=2667<BR/><BR/>This netbook is not really high-end (based on a very low-end reference design from Quanta), but for 149 Euro (!!! new, not refurbished!) you can't be too wrong.<BR/><BR/>It also comes with Ubuntu preinstalled and is now also being sold on Amazon.de. <BR/><BR/>The air gets thinner for MS and its Windows tax - even 20 euros for Win XP Home is a lot in this price regions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-52583204471434742702009-02-10T20:43:00.000+00:002009-02-10T20:43:00.000+00:00Mind you, with the way the pound's going, that mig...Mind you, with the way the pound's going, that might be a fair price soon...Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-7000553334100252322009-02-10T20:20:00.000+00:002009-02-10T20:20:00.000+00:00If you happen to live in the UK, you can pick up a...If you happen to live in the UK, you can pick up a Mini 9 with 512MB and 4G SSD for just £249.<BR/><BR/>It makes you wonder how Dell do their conversion to Sterling. I suspect it's by changing the symbol at the front.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com