tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post3522626199233906581..comments2024-03-22T12:20:48.920+00:00Comments on open...: John Wilbanks on the Knowledge WebGlyn Moodyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-81508354023454111572008-04-29T20:44:00.000+00:002008-04-29T20:44:00.000+00:00I don't think they're mutually exclusive. We alre...I don't think they're mutually exclusive. We already have search that works moderately well, and will doubtless work better. We don't have the knowledge web, not least because things aren't open, as you say. I think much of the semantic web stuff will just happen as things open up. Then we can find out if it's *really* useful....Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-24797978502189755962008-04-29T20:13:00.000+00:002008-04-29T20:13:00.000+00:00I can agree with this general principle of Wilbank...I can agree with this general principle of Wilbanks: "Just to be clear, here's what I mean by a knowledge web: it's when today's web has enough power to work as well for science as it currently works for culture." This is what I call making the Web work for science.<BR/>(http://www.osti.gov/ostiblog/home/entry/making_the_web_work_for)<BR/><BR/>But most of the article is about a technical concept of the "knowledge web." It argues that open access is desirable because of the Semantic Web and related ideas about building vast computer based knowledge representation systems. Such systems are not part of the way the Web works for culture, nor are they likely to work for science. Findability is what we need, not computer generated structure.<BR/><BR/>Linking everything to everything is an old idea, older than the Web. Ted Nelson was a leading proponent in the 1980's. But the underlying concept of knowledge is incorrect. The same is true for the Semantic Web. This is basically the dream of computer people, the dream of machine understanding. It lacks a scientific foundation in the science of human knowledge.<BR/><BR/>Simply put, we do not understand enough about human knowledge and understanding to build the machine understanding systems these people are talking about. This is the perennial problem of artificial intelligence, the fact that we do not understand human intelligence.<BR/><BR/>Findability and full text search are what make open access valuable, not the potential for a vast computer based knowledge web.<BR/><BR/>David WojickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com