tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post54277212611165885..comments2024-03-22T12:20:48.920+00:00Comments on open...: HADOPI Law Passed - by 12 Votes to 4Glyn Moodyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-3105280210007746112009-04-07T07:18:00.000+00:002009-04-07T07:18:00.000+00:00"those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fe..."those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear" - well, in a perfect world, maybe, though I'm not convinced. Sadly, in this imperfect world it's certainly not true: just look at the UK, where so-called "anti-terrorism" laws are being used to spy on people who drop litter...<BR/><BR/>Once this stuff is in place, it will be abused. No ifs or buts. It's a privacy disaster.Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-21618841240537288022009-04-07T07:14:00.000+00:002009-04-07T07:14:00.000+00:00Only those who have something to hide will feel th...Only those who have something to hide will feel threatened by this law. As for "spying on one's family" etc., remember that it is a citizen's duty to alert authorities when they know that someone is engaging in criminal activity, even if that someone is a family member.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-58443837946628837712009-04-07T02:42:00.000+00:002009-04-07T02:42:00.000+00:00do with bad communism!, it's feodality!, France lo...do with bad communism!, it's feodality!, France looks like a republic but it's a royalty, a bad one. If you go to Holland, Sweden, Danmark, (they are royaltys), you have this feeling you are in a republic!, it's the contrary in F.....g france (all lower case, please!).reinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03646051498215339046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-31000595727457519222009-04-06T12:32:00.000+00:002009-04-06T12:32:00.000+00:00we are now in Chinaremember how chineses told our ...we are now in China<BR/>remember how chineses told our police what to do during olympic travel in paris???<BR/>remember how chineses told us what to do with tibet and dalai lama, a nobel price???<BR/>remeber how they pick up tibetan flags but not chinese ones?? claming about terrorism with flags??<BR/>remember videos of a private funny tv showing chinese officials telling french offcials what was the laws of the day??<BR/>i love my country; my parents and friends still leave there; but all myfriends wanna leave somewhere else as soon as possible<BR/>we're fucked up by our own governement<BR/>i also heard marxism proposal in the mouth of our liberal president and "relance" minister wich son get a very new good job<BR/>like the president son.....<BR/>we don't live in a democracyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-24304347819783510912009-04-06T09:21:00.000+00:002009-04-06T09:21:00.000+00:00I do wonder why the French put up with this...I do wonder why the French put up with this...Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-841829013440445572009-04-06T09:06:00.000+00:002009-04-06T09:06:00.000+00:00In France most politicians think its ok to punish ...In France most politicians think its ok to punish an all group of people because one of them didn’t abide by the law. The French parliament has just voted a law that allows cutting the internet line of a group of people, a family or a business, if one of them downloads content without paying the copyright. If they want to avoid losing their internet line the French will have to spy on other members of their family or business to stop any illegal behavior related to copyright. Artist in France are much more clever than anywhere else (except maybe China or the ex Soviet Union). The French already pay many taxes that are supposed to offset the loss of income due to the infringement of copyright. Non only they pay taxes but They pay ( those who work in the private sector) through their social assurance premium huge amounts of money to allow hundreds of thousands of artists to get paid for nine months by the social insurance system when they have really work for three months ( “Regime des intermitents du spectacle”) . At the time where you can be robbed, raped or injured with impunity in big areas where millions of people live without any protection of the state ( the police refuse to go there because it’s too dangerous) it’s certainly more important to remind to the French that copying music on the internet is the ultimate crime ! It’s what does any teenager. Not surprising that in France medias use the word “ les jeunes” (meaning young people) to say punk or tout. You could imagine that so much money invested in French artist would encourage creativity! As a matter of fact where is our Bach Mozart or Vinci (a time when copyright didn’t exist.) Sure the creativity has never been so low but artist have never been more convinced that France need a more powerful state system (In France the state system get only 52 % of the total income)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-14475533171401477362009-04-04T10:56:00.000+00:002009-04-04T10:56:00.000+00:00Frightening.Frightening.Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-77083132381822300202009-04-04T10:09:00.000+00:002009-04-04T10:09:00.000+00:00@glyn moody: They literally have NO CLUE WHATSOEVE...@glyn moody: They literally have NO CLUE WHATSOEVER. The person responsible for this law, Ms. Albanel, was asked during the debate how she can simply accept the fact that this law makes distribution of Open Source software very difficult, and she answered something approximating <A HREF="http://www.framablog.org/index.php/post/2009/04/02/hadopi-albanel-pare-feu-open-office-logiciel-libre" REL="nofollow">"Well, of course Microsoft Office has a Firewall, but so does OpenOffice!"</A><BR/><BR/>A newspaper also recently <A HREF="http://torrentfreak.com/lawmakers-clueless-about-bittorrent-and-p2p-090321/" REL="nofollow">asked</A> several politicians "Which is the bigger menace, BitTorrent or P2P?" (that's a trick question, on purpose) NOT ONE of them knew what that really meant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-80581551535559467432009-04-04T09:42:00.000+00:002009-04-04T09:42:00.000+00:00@Fabrice: that's incredibly depressing. Aren't th...@Fabrice: that's incredibly depressing. Aren't they even worried about the *legal* aspects of guilt, by accusation, or of the power they are giving to *private* individuals?Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-51454338215086279722009-04-04T09:37:00.000+00:002009-04-04T09:37:00.000+00:00I so much wish you where true, but the fact is nob...I so much wish you where true, but the fact is nobody, among french political staff, gives a shit about this law. Only a few understand what's it's all about, most don't grasp the full problem but felt like not taking part to the vote because they would have voted yes and where 'afraid of the internet and those bloggers'. So the vote was organized in a way to minimized the headcount.<BR/><BR/>Except the green party, all party didn't opposed to the law, either left or right. Only a few parliament member opposed, those are now France's new e-demacracy heroes, but there's only five of them. Not enough for democracy to survive...Fabrice Epelboinhttp://fr.readwriteweb.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-34704887847691404832009-04-04T07:53:00.000+00:002009-04-04T07:53:00.000+00:00Vive le Roi. pVive le Roi. pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-17421183876763647802009-04-04T06:05:00.000+00:002009-04-04T06:05:00.000+00:00L'État, c'est moi....L'État, c'est moi....Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-68518710266442002662009-04-04T01:02:00.000+00:002009-04-04T01:02:00.000+00:00I wonder that 16 people alone are enough to decide...I wonder that 16 people alone are enough to decide for several million people.<BR/><BR/>If we cut back 15, we could establish a new king of france.shevyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09636171104216432368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-11785307074472616292009-04-03T18:42:00.000+00:002009-04-03T18:42:00.000+00:00My understanding is that's it's due to some proced...My understanding is that's it's due to some procedural rule that was invoked in this case....Glyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-10363101810324546842009-04-03T18:39:00.001+00:002009-04-03T18:39:00.001+00:00Amazing that the french "national assembly" has no...Amazing that the french "national assembly" has no regulations with regards to quorum , apparently. I assume that 16/577 (under three percent) of the legislators hardly satisfy reasonable quorum rules for legislation in other "democracies".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-66153866153341667782009-04-03T18:39:00.000+00:002009-04-03T18:39:00.000+00:00HiI'm French and not proud of it.Such a law is a m...Hi<BR/>I'm French and not proud of it.<BR/>Such a law is a mockery of French Law, a mockery of the citizen, and a mockery of democracy.<BR/>Travellers baware : France is now The French Popular Repulic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-31531726998582703942009-04-03T18:27:00.000+00:002009-04-03T18:27:00.000+00:00You're right, I should have said that there are 57...You're right, I should have said that there are 577 seats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblee_nationaleGlyn Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436885795882611585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-22040850431071639222009-04-03T18:17:00.000+00:002009-04-03T18:17:00.000+00:00It would help understanding to know how many legis...It would help understanding to know how many legislators are in this body. Reporting a vote of 12-4 needs context for the international audience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-14569533699808362092009-04-03T17:59:00.000+00:002009-04-03T17:59:00.000+00:00Read the article... they DID attend. The vote hap...Read the article... they DID attend. The vote happened after most had gone home for the night (it was at 10:45pm!) expecting to be voting on the issue later in the week...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-52886653644419311542009-04-03T17:55:00.000+00:002009-04-03T17:55:00.000+00:00If this law is so contentious, perhaps the rest of...If this law is so contentious, perhaps the rest of the voters should vote to repeal it immediately, instead of just rolling over and accepting this maneuver.<BR/>I have a feeling that most of them will just allow it to stand unchallenged. Thus dies democracyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-61137032402965614162009-04-03T16:28:00.000+00:002009-04-03T16:28:00.000+00:00This is why it's so important for elected official...This is why it's so important for elected officials to attend. It's your job; do it!GreenReaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04490769419978225723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19798349.post-1766006634925347102009-04-03T16:10:00.000+00:002009-04-03T16:10:00.000+00:00Remember the French Revolution? I think it might ...Remember the French Revolution? I think it might be time for the French to dig out all those old guillotines again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com